Do that math.
A landmarked fully rehabbed single family house in Old Town, on 37.5 foot wide lot, with accompanying coach house. Market price? $1.6 million.
A non-landmarked vintage single family home with coach house in Lincoln Park. Current market price? $2.45 million.
A new single family home in non-landmarked area on a 37.5 wide lot in Lincoln park? On the market for over 3.3 million.
Another vintage single family home, brick, 3000 square feet, also for sale in Old Town, purchase price offered around 1.3 million. A Wood frame single family in Old Town, on Willow, price 1.2 million.
New construction single-lot homes in non-landmarked Lincoln Park? Ranging from 2-6.5 million. Single-lot homes in the same area built within the last five years are averaging between $2.5-3.5 million prices.
Vintage single-lot homes in non-landmarked Lincoln Park? Ranging from 1.4 million if on bad lot or in bad repair, up to 2.2 million if newly restored.
Naah, landmarking doesn't hurt your home's resale price (yes, that is sarcasm).
posted by The Grants @ 11:07 AM
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Yes, do the math. How many "fabulous" homes are sitting for 12, 18, 24 months unsold in Old Town? How many in Lincoln Park?
Asking for $3 Million is not getting it. Property Value is what someone actually PAYS.
A wooden cottage fetches $1M in Old Town, a
3-story brick home is torn down for that
in Lincoln Park. What were you saying about
Landmark Districts? Unlock your wealth and move to the suburbs...if you can sell.
Good one Dee. The property value lie is the most obvious of the many preservation zealot lies, but what is not well known is that when they get into specifics about history and indicators of significance, they engage in revisionism. The reports that the landmarks people have on file are usually laughable unsupported fabricated history. One common trick for example, is to attribute a building to any obscure dead architect, without documentation, and of course, since the architect is dead, it's a landmark. Or they'll say something like, this home is significant because it was the dwelling of the daughter of the housekeeper of the cousin of somebody that was friends with the assistant manager at Marshal Fields.
If the goal of the preservationists is appearance review, they should just say it and spare us all the lies.
I have no idea what that last post means. I do
understand market trends. There is a glut of
new homes/condo inventory eroding property values. Limiting supply always increases
price.
Old Town, Midnorth, Beverly and Wicker Park
have held their value.
The landmark areas do not have
a sea of "for sale" signs on brand new or
recently built homes nor do they have empty houses. Developers have overbuilt and should
have the sense to give it a rest. Time for a
reality check and price correction. If a Landmark area can stabilize property values and lower taxes, let's try it. Our area will look alot nicer too.
Five bedroom newer construction home on 1800 block of Bissell listed $2.6M for a yr. Now it's $1.6M. 1924 Dayton, another no sell for a year.
Hopefully developers will now "upgrade" other areas. They have milked the cow dry here.
To compare apples and oranges is ridiculous-- LANDMARK JUNKY!
The market is dead everywhere--did you quote how many 2B2B condos are on the market in Lincoln Park??? HUH??
--today it was 167 and that does not include studios, one or 3+ bedrooms condos? and for how long?
Also--did you look at the market time for landmark properties? or how about the increase in the number of properties on the market that just got rated orange? People are getting out before their rights are taken from them.
McMansions are not the enemy here---Would you turn away a huge return in the stock market?
Why not let me and five of my friends that know s#!% about investing tell YOU what return you'll get on your 401K???
---That is what you Landmark juniies are imposing on use. STAY AWAY FROM MY RETIREMENT!!!!
I think you're just envious of a non-landmarked property's freedom to not have to kiss Aldermatic ass to change the windows or the paint color.
I'll take a bare $1M lot that is not landmarked over your $1M ancient building "that has character" anyday.
The land those Mc Mansion sit on is worth more in property value that many of the landmarked homes plus the land.
Also--the fire on Fullerton was said to have gone fast--my dad is a fireman in Chicago--old wood they said--landmarked building.
So you better insure your firetraps for a higher amount LANDMARK JUNKIES!
Did you even look in the MLS?
Here are some facts---The top ten highest price homes in Lincoln Park that closed in the last 12 months are as follows:
2015 Howe $4,510,000 Market Time 1 day
1905 Burling $4,100,000 Market Time 7 days
1901 Dayton $3595,000 Market Time 10 days
2664 Geneva Terrace $3,500,000 Market Time 259 Days
2726 Mildred $3,452,279 Market Time 121 Days
SHALL I GO ON????
The bottom line is expensive properties sit longer on the market. Also, many developers post the listing before they start building--so the market time is longer than a built home.
Let's look at the bottom ten lowest priced homes closed in the same period--surprise---landmarked properties:
240 W. Willow $525,000 Market Time 17 Days
958 Dickens $530,000 market TIme
18 days
306 Concord $643,000 Market Time 8 Days
1749 Fern Ct $649,000 market TIme 52
OKAY THEN GO FAST ---BUT THAT"S BECAUSE LOW PRICE IS THE ONLY REASON TO BUY A LANDMARKED BUILDING!!!
CAN ANYONE DO A STUDY ON PRICE PER SQUARE FOOT FOR "RAW LAND" VERSUS A "LANDMARKED BUILDING AND LAND"?
I agree that Lincoln Park has been overbuilt.
The market is dead anywhere there has been
speculative overdevelopment. Property value is what you get, not what price is listed.
Property value lasts more than two years versus the snapshot builders use to
buy low, build and sell (or try to sell) high. A current Chicago Magazine article says 1924 N. Dayton owners are selling because they "want a yard with grass." It's been on the market for years.
McMansions are not the enemy. They are a result of shorterm thinking and disrespect for consumers.
I say save on property taxes.
Keep your yard and trees. Let's revisit Landmarking.
Landmarked areas like MidNorth, Old Town, Wicker Park don't have a bunch of for sale signs and will not tank in value. Foreclosures will create even more of a glut in Lincoln Park.
I think Alderman Daley is working with
an out of control situation. Not easy or popular job. I give her credit. If you want more blocks levelled and higher taxes find out which Aldermanic candidate developers support. Contributions are
public.
Lincoln Park homes are going to tank in value, and there's going to be a wave of foreclosures??
Oh no. say it ain't so!
By the way, here's a news flash, the Cook County Assessor does not factor in landmark status. Even though a landmarked home has half the market value of those that are not, the assessor's office will use the non-landmarked home sales as comparables when determining your assessment. Landmarking will have no impact on your taxes. They're heading through the roof regardless.
Skyrocking taxes are a developer gift that keeps on giving. New construction caused inflated property assessments in Lincoln Park.
We Landmarked and got an 8 yr. tax freeze / plus 4 yr. step up =12 yr. break. As owners we got an income tax break. We also collected rebates on things like roofing, windows, heating/cooling and remodeling. I don't know about any foreclosures yet.
But new home values are already tanking. My neighbor is offering to bankroll property taxes for the buyer of his three year old home.
However, taxes on his megamansion will never go down.
You conveniently failed to mention that to qualify for the freeze, you also had to spend a minimum of 25% of the home's market value on renovations.
The purpose of the landmarks ordinance was never to manipulate private asset values.
Quite right. And thanks for the reminder. Yes,
we did our homework and found it was to
our advantage to invest in property we already
owned. We did not pay the initial added markup and resulting inflated property taxes
new land would have cost.
Excellent. I'm glad you're happy with the results, and if anyone else wants to pursue a similar strategy, they should call Landmarks, and they will be happy to landmark your individual home as long as it is 50 years old. There is no need to drag in others involuntarily.
Thanks. Similarly, I and the vast majority of my neighbors did not volunteer to be dragged into the legacy of soaring taxes from
unprecedented churning of my neighborhood.
Developers targeted my area for
teardowns, rampant speculation and out of
character building that triggered more block busting. The fact that my neighbors are now
unsuccessfully trying to unload such unwise
and unplanned buildings gives me no pleasure.
But, eventually they will lower their price, and move to a place they can raise their families.
I am staying, as are many of us. So your argument cuts both ways. Property rights gives me a voice to call for Landmarking what can be saved.
This is still an affordable, beautiful neighborhood and the economy is ending the madness.
I can't believe what I am reading! I heard
some truth was getting on this blogsite-great.
Good to hear from people who live
here and like it but don't like the senseless destruction or resulting monstrosities.
Okay people you obviously would not make great authors for FREAKONOMICS.
Nor are you logical..there are many other depoendant variable to tax base than Mc Mansion and price inflation.
How about the reduction in density that this CIty has seen. Lincoln Park lost 38,000 peopl in the last twenty years no down to about 58,000. Your taxes are going up beacuse you downzoned everthing and then landmarked.
Do the research....read Albert C. Hanna versus the City of Chicago.
If you want to save your neighborhoood, create a fund and buy it!!!!!!!!!!!!
Or better yet move to Williamsburg.
To the guy who wanted to invest in the home he had and not invest in the mark-up--why--can't affrod a Metzler Hull Home?
Property rights are a constitutional right. The landmarks ordinace is crap, subjecitve and I bet Jonathon Fein never owned a landmarked home.
Let's all sign up for an ordinace that requires you to check in with the city evertime you want to repair your car..you'd tell them to shove it. Why encumber other assets.
Most of the people who eelect landmarking , do so after they have renovated THEIR home to non-historical standards and then want to control others.
Give me a break.
He didn't say they couldn't afford
Metzler Hull, or BDCG, GIA or any of
the other "investor" bldgs. in our area. They choose not to get stuck- overpaying, spending
a fortune on property taxes, not being able to
sell when they realize a garage roof isn't going to cut it longterm.
You don't need an economics degree or a real estate liscense to know why over 20 mcmansions are just sitting.
This is obviously is a site run by developer/real estate interests. I was curious as to what the fuss was about. Good luck.
The site is not run by anyone. Home owners contribute. And not all home owners..including me....and many others.... want their property rights taken from them.
Trust me I would save a beautiful old building versus take it down..but let me decide and control it.
Blame everything on the developers and realtors...great strategy. Home owners are against landmarking.
I am a home owner and the botttom line is LP appreciated in value 91% in the last five years. LP is not going into the tank...its goin back to basic metrics.
Soaring taxes, cookie cutter mcmansions, empowerment of ignorant vigilantes...are all valid concerns, and it shouldn't be difficult to find common ground except that with this alderman and all her baggage every issue becomes exponentially more contentious.
to the person who uses the MLS
as an honest indicator of how long it takes these to sell:
you probably know the Real Estate Community recently changed the way list time is
recorded to offset the dismal sales record of agents.
It is more difficult to trace the actual list time but you can get the full history. The new rules say when a new contract is drafted, presto- the property is NEW and the amount of time
on the market is reduced. People who
live here or shopping for a while know the time properties are sitting.
91% spike in property values in 5 years is not a
number, if true, to be pleased about. It is unsustainable and speaks to the volitility of the marketplace in Lincoln Park.
people who continue to throw
money into mcmanison property tax pits will find it is not easy to sell houses, even five years old, that already are billed as outmoded. these prices are pure fantasy...as is the idea that anything that goes up so fast won't drop.
if you live in a condo I guess numbers won't scare you .if you live in a house this is a terrible paradigm.
On regulations--someone mentioned cars.
clean air, clean water, job safety
and, even car regulations were fought
by industry before being enacted. automakers
raged against seat belts, catalytic converter....cars are regulated since they impact our lives. I go to a legal garage, buy vehicle stickers, plates,
get my EPA test yearly,
carry insurance, keep my drivers license current,Illinois regulated gas, obey rules of the road....
pollute the well I drink from and you
pollute my water. teardown my
neighborhood, change the footprint, build
oversized structures and you taint my investment.
I bought a house in a neighborhood, on a block
with an aesthetic and trees and green space.
we live inches from each other. please, let's not kid ourselves.
communities have rights.
no one lives in a cave.
the market is softening. overdevelopment doesn't make sense anymore.
The person who says 91% increase in property values is scary is right. That much of a jump in
so little time doesn't sound right. Remember
'location, location, location.' Lincoln Park
was not so undervalued in the first place.
The prices are way too high.
Buildings are already highly regulated with building and zoning codes. Any additional regulations should not be a recipe for neighbor on neighbor vendettas as you see in our present landmark districts.
Please name the Landmark areas
rife with neighbor on neighbor vendettas. How
many disputes?
Nothing could be worse than living in an R-4
neighborhood that is being bullbozed into
R-5 with lotline to lotline behemoths and
mutliple lot overdevelopment. Monsters
devour light, greenspace and cause a drainage
problem. There are lawsuits now
over the shoddy construction-
..cracked foundations, a basement too deep
causes the home next door to flood because of
high watertable here.
And the "raised rear yard." - not a yard at all but a giant container that is not permeable and overflows. Breezeways with 20 foot walls take the last open space left.
Runoff goes into an overloaded sewer
system , then into the alley, then garages and
houses next door. Poorly planned new construction creates infrastructure issues by altering what's reasonable on small lots.
I have never heard about vendettas in Midnorth, Old Town, Wicker Park or Beverly. Owners have isolated issues that neighbors will have.
The communiies are highly desirable.
They are thrilled to have dodged the development bullet and kept their best buildings, yards and trees.
Call the community group. Not one regrets Landmarking. There are over 43 Landmark Districts,
some over 35 years old. A walk down their blocks shows how its working, especially in, as one blogger noted, volatile times.
Landmark Districts are opposed by those who view neighborhoods only as profit.
For them Landmarking slows down speculation, limits the new multiple lot craze and lets property value grow over time instead of a onetime quick kill.
If you're living in an area that is zoned multi-family, get out of there. Clearly you want the single-family environment. Move to where the neighborhood is zoned for that.
It would help if the city didn't selectively enforce the rules that are already on the books. The inapropriate construction that you describe sounds like an exact description of Vi Daley's own residence where she violated several zoning rules, and she pulled it off in a landmark district. At 1807 N. Orleans, she built a behemoth concrete block rear addition, covered every single square inch of open space, put in an 8 car parking facility; and it was all in violation of the law. Landmarks didn't stop her. For a detailed description and a photo see http://43rdward.blogspot.com/
for me this is not about multiple family units. I live in Sheffield where single family mcmansions chew up green space. once capital gains write-off
standards are met many go back on market. families can't live on roofdecks and need better designed homes. Chicago Magazine has an article on one for
sale on Dayton now..no yard. outrageous prices mean huge property taxes and many mcmansions aren't selling. still builders keep building.
new infill construction should not
be at the expense of our best homes and not
if a replacement is disrepectful to the
homes and lifestyle that is already here.
about the Alderman's home- don't know what was there before. maybe an old
Boarding House. so it was not a question of
destroying a yard or the look of the block. an eight car garage sounds multiple unit. I highly doubt Vi Daley would not be a good neighbor...she has lived and worked here for 30 years.
A good neighbor doesn't cheat on the zoning laws, and there is no denying that Vi Daley cheated.
It looks like what Alderman Daley did
was perfectly legal. Garages are allowed zero
sidelot. The bldg. footprint may have been kept with
wreck and removal of a wooden structure and the rebuilding of a garage. It looks over 10 years old and like many others of that period. Facades of buildings are protected under Landmarking. Sometimes alleyways are involved...rarely.
So, yes, it's possible to deny what has not been proven.
Building permit number 793581
Application number 945649
Application date 9/14/94
Permit approved as "express permit" on 9/30/94.
(That's a 2 week approval time which in those days was unheard of.)
It was a gut rehab plus a 3 1/2 story rear addition plus the garage addition.
The 3 1/2 story concrete block addition filled in an interior court and added about 11 ft. in length to the building plus there is an additional concrete block bump out in the rear that extends into the rear yard setback about another 10 feet. There is no question that Vi Daley violated the rear yard setback.
Under the old zoning code, section 5.7-5, #3, Breezeways and Open Porches are permitted in the rear yard setback. Those open balconies you see in the photo are permitted. The fully enclosed concrete block portion is not.
There is an alley along the rear lot line. The garage should have been set back from the alley by 2 ft.. Vi Daley ignored this rule. She built right to the line.
None of this was a replacement of any existing nonconforming structure.
If this still isn't good enough for you, then maybe there should be a formal investigation.
-Garages go up on the lot line now.. According to Streets and Sanitation it's legal.
It's illegal to pour an apron into the
right of way of the alley. I have seen many
houses do that in the last couple of years.
maybe her lot was short.
-a two wk approval means paperwork was filed...a lack of a permit trail would be troubling.
-I would not develop a property that way but
many people did then (hopefully best practices
now encourages permeable green space)
-if an 11 ft setback is considered major
dirt on my Alderman, then I am relieved.
Thanks for sharing the information.
I agree-zoning must be enforced.
Whether this merits an investigation, in light
of current city and county probes, seems unlikely.
Isn't her place a condo? Was her permit for interior work or for the building?
Yes, it's a condo. Vi and Vince Daley are active real estate developers and speculators. Here they sold off 7 units and kept one.
To me, the 2 week approval time on their permit is even more disturbing than their zoning violations. Our building department is famous for its intransigence. Anyone who received an illegal permit in 2 weeks in 1994 has filthy hands. Vi and Vince Daley are cheating swine. This is why landmarks is not for Chicago. It's the old C word -CORRUPTION. First bring us a clean alderman, and then we'll talk about landmarks.
Legitimate points are lost in
in an atmosphere of personal attacks-
(junky, zealot, swine, liar, snob, nannie) are not needed in rational discussion. A lack of dialogue has left Lincoln Park in an unfortunate stalemate.
Civil disagreement can produce needed change.
Deriding anyone with a different point of view or trying to intimidate neighbors from taking a seat at the table to decide their future won't work.
Aldermen should represent communities and not outside interests. Let's stick to issues.
I wholeheartedly agree with the last comment.
I agree there needs to be factual, respectful debate.
If you need to name-call and shout
then your position isn't all that compelling.
It is obvious why certain bloggers are so meanspirited- developer /real estate agent profits are on the line.
Fair enough.
Let's refrain from both name calling and the assignment of greed as the only possible motive for an anti-landmark opinion.
Henceforth, any previous indelicate characterization of Alderman Vi Daley and her spouse shall be substituted with the term "criminal suspects".
How did they obtain an illegal building permit for an 8 unit condo development in 2 weeks time in 1994? It reaks of bribery amd/or fraud, and it happened in a landmark district. It's time for full disclosure of this incident as well as all of their real estate wheelings and dealings.
Criminal suspects? The blog is run by a lawyer,
isn't it? Isn' that a bit wreckless or even unjust?
Its so easy in the shadow of anonimity.
My suspicion is that this blogger is
1) a developer or real estate agent
2) lives in Old Town and wanted to get around Landmarking yourself.
I am not a trained attorney but I don't see that quick paperwork for a totally legal job
is criminal or even important. It's a decade ago.
No one in the neighborhood ever complained about the rennovation. If you were there, why didn't you?
Persisting in this approach demeans the
exchange of real ideas. I am sorry to include greed as a motive to oppose Landmarking...but, it is.
There are other objections. But trying to
unrealistically max out profits and building size is
about money. I am not saying every objector has that in mind. But $$$ drives the teardown
and mcmansion push despite an increasingly
slow market, infrastructure problems and
neighbors complaints that we don't want it here.
We can hear each other and fix some things even if we don't agree on everything. Multiple lot mcmansions or losing yards and trees aren't good for neighborhoods.
Someone asked you for examples of Landmark
Districts you claim caused "neighbor on neighbor vendettas." What are they?
Or are you someone living in a Landmark District and have a vendetta against all of your
neighbors?
Vi Daley is a criminal suspect. In September of 1994 she was chief of staff for the previous alderman. It appears she used a combination of influence, fraud, and / or bribery to obtain a building permit in 2 weeks time for an illegal development in which she had a financial interest.
During the same period, an honest contractor would have had to wait 9 months for a permit for a project of similar scope. In the 1990’s, the permit issuing arm of the building department was a cesspool of corruption. The moral equivalent of a criminal syndicate had acquired near monopoly control of permits.
It became so incredibly bad that the mayor eventually took the drastic step of splitting the permitting function away from the building department and creating a brand new department. But in the 1990’s, honest people were so fed up and frustrated that building without permits became common practice. As a direct consequence of this environment, a 1990’s era deck collapsed gruesomely killing 13 kids in our ward. It makes one want to vomit. We owe it to the families of the victims to flush out those that participated in this syndicate. Vi Daley must come clean with full disclosure. Consider this fair warning.
So a timely permit issued in th 90's
is automatically fradulent? This pales
compared with real issues- tactics played at the Zoning Board of Appeals. Chairman Alderman Banks along with the Developer "go to guy" Attny Billy Banks- Alderman Bank's nephew. THAT should be investigated-which developers hired Banks nephew and how many times they prevailed. How about
100%. Developers have flourished in the last
decade. Your most important words -"it appears"
Things appear one way to you, not to me.
Alderman Daley doesn't run
the DOB (Dept of Buildings)
Linking her to the deaths of the porch collapse
is outrageoous and desperate.
A lawyer runs this blogsite? This
is factual?
It's very interesting. Every time someone asks for facts on the wild accusations stated, like alleged "neighbor on neighbor vendettas" caused by Landmarking for instance, someone tries to switch subjects and create more lies. So, according VOCAL
1) housing downturn is a myth
2) mcmansions aren't gluting marketplace
3)MLS is THE source to determine list time
4)Landmark Districts are full of "neighbor vendettas"
5)Alderman Vi Daley is a speculative developer
6) Alderman Daley is a murderer
This group is no longer worth anyone's time.
This isn't worth the time, you're right.
a couple final myths to debunk:
-landmarking doesn't affect property taxes:
(12-yr. tax relief, income tax credit, remodel rebates)
-insurance rates are higher for Landmarked bldg (according to major insurers like Allstate,
State Farm and others it is not a factor-it's as much or more to underwrite mcmansions)
-downzoning caused property taxes to rise
(new construction hikes property assessments)
-loss of population is reducing city revenues
(true. single family mcmanions are part of that. With turnover less than 2-5 yrs we'll see if monsters will be chopped into smaller homes and thus replenish density. taxes and utility bills are simply too high for people leveraged into them.
Vi Daley is a criminal suspect. In September of 1994 she was chief of staff for the previous alderman. It appears she used a combination of influence, fraud, and / or bribery to obtain a building permit in 2 weeks time for an illegal development in which she had a financial interest.
During the same period, an honest contractor would have had to wait 9 months for a permit for a project of similar scope. In the 1990’s, the permit issuing arm of the building department was a cesspool of corruption. The moral equivalent of a criminal syndicate had acquired near monopoly control of permits.
It became so incredibly bad that the mayor eventually took the drastic step of splitting the permitting function away from the building department and creating a brand new department. But in the 1990’s, honest people were so fed up and frustrated that building without permits became common practice. As a direct consequence of this environment, a 1990’s era deck collapsed gruesomely killing 13 kids in our ward. It makes one want to vomit. We owe it to the families of the victims to flush out those that participated in this syndicate. Vi Daley must come clean with full disclosure. Consider this fair warning.
Vi Daley is a criminal suspect. In September of 1994 she was chief of staff for the previous alderman. It appears she used a combination of influence, fraud, and / or bribery to obtain a building permit in 2 weeks time for an illegal development in which she had a financial interest.
During the same period, an honest contractor would have had to wait 9 months for a permit for a project of similar scope. In the 1990’s, the permit issuing arm of the building department was a cesspool of corruption. The moral equivalent of a criminal syndicate had acquired near monopoly control of permits.
It became so incredibly bad that the mayor eventually took the drastic step of splitting the permitting function away from the building department and creating a brand new department. But in the 1990’s, honest people were so fed up and frustrated that building without permits became common practice. As a direct consequence of this environment, a 1990’s era deck collapsed gruesomely killing 13 kids in our ward. It makes one want to vomit. We owe it to the families of the victims to flush out those that participated in this syndicate. Vi Daley must come clean with full disclosure. Consider this fair warning.
I see now this site is clearly not about issues
but is a front for a special interest.
This attempt to create scandal when real
scandal abounds kills whatever credibility you might have had. I'm done too.
The logic here astounds. Honest people do
not build illegally....no one forced builders to break the law. Reading the comments says it all.
I believe this group will be shown to be a couple of people-including developers.
VOCAL is an e-mail list - I am sorry our name is on it now.
A dishonest opaque government that makes up its own rules has unforeseen, unintended consequences. Have you machine people huddling around Vi Daley because it's profitable, no sense of decency? City workers hauled away that deck and destroyed all the evidence in less than 24 hours. That's a crime. Then the city's law department accusses the victims of wrong doing. They even had some drunk, bankrupt patronage loser make up some story. The whole time, Vi Daley's lips are zipped and locked. Where is the outrage?
An interest in honest and transparent governance is indeed special.
And guess what. It's real estate agents behind landmarking as much as anyone. Half the people on neighborhood association boards are realtors. Realtors and politicians love landmark districts because the residents are highly transient.
The thing about lies is that they usually unravel. Like the Big Box Ordinance vote you didn't bother to get and the unsubstantiated
"neighbor on neighbor vendettas" -where are they?
Now "half of all Neighborhood Boards are realtors."
Really. I don't think you even know how many neighborhood groups are in Chicago.
As to the "transient" nature of Landmark Districts.... I believe I read the average length of stay was 12 years. We'll see how long the tenure is in McMansions .
Dealing in the absurd is tedious.
I have no party affiliation or favor any Aldermanic Candidate yet. I thought there might be some substance here. A pity.
That was so profound, I’m speechless.
Hey, Remind your pals Sorich, McCarthy, Slattery, and Sullivan not to drop the soap.
Decent people have been victimized by
pushy builders who have made a killing for 12 yrs.
in Lincoln Park. Developers got zoning breaks,
use illegal crews, damaged adjacent homes,
routinely stole water and electricity next door,
flaunt EPA law with dry cutting fake limestone
got incredibly nasty with the residents on the block.
They take years to finish their shoddy work.
Now they are in litigation over mold and repairs.Handico and Handyman are making a fortune fixing McDuds.
How many will be sold or re-sold by next year?
People are angry. There are many stories. Builders will get more attention than they ever dreamed of if they don't stick to real issues. Fair warning.
Mrs. Bates? Is that you?
Better question-
Which Mcmansion developer are you?
And who is your candidate since its clear
what VOCAL really is.
Chicago Magazine Fall 2006 -
3 highest priced homes sold in Cook County
are in Landmark Districts. Sales in unprotected,
overdeveloped Lincoln Park.....
Now look at the 2000 block of Dayton and you will see the dreaded chain link fence draped with green canvas in front of three old victorian 3 flats. Not to mention that one has a side yard, so now we are talking about 3 victorians coming down to include a side yard thus making 4 lots available all next to eachother for Johnny builder. I can hardly wait to see what the fuck goes up. Another great city block up in smoke. Yipee 22 Oct 06
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